Some questions...new (to me) phone that's rooted

ukdal1 · 05-11-2011, 12:06 AM

So I just bought this phone and the previous owner rooted the phone and it has cyanogen mod 7 (still not sure what that means to me ) on it. I'm completely new to this phone and I just want to make sure I don't mess anything up. I like it the way it is and all the abilities the mod lets you have and I'm satisfied with the way it all works.

If I just leave everything as is will anything mess up during normal use? I just don't want to download something and fry the phone, ya know?

Thanks all,
David

bourne · 05-11-2011, 11:42 AM

congrates on purchasing a nexus one

I have never run CyanogenMod myself and I have only just recently become a rooted user.

I think like most devices, if you use little discretion and a little common sense while using your phone I don't think you can really cause all that much damage to it (of course there are always the exceptions to the rule).

Spend sometime around these forums, and of course spend some time just playing with your phone, and you will get more comfortable with it as time goes on.

Just enjoy it though is my best advice

**danger-rat** · 05-11-2011, 12:01 PM

Since you're rooted, I would recommend taking advantage of the ability to make backups to your SD.

You can backup apps and settings with Titanium Backup.

You can backup the full system with a custom recovery (you probably already have one). Your options are either Amon Ra or Clockworkmod (though I would avoid the 3.x version of Clockwork). You can boot into recovery from your shut down menu, just long press the power button...

ROM Manager is an app interface, which will make the backup process a little easier, but requires you to use the Clockwork recovery. Avoid the 3.x version of the recovery, and flash a 2.x version from the last menu option...

bourne · 05-12-2011, 07:46 PM

I've seen you recommend staying away from clockworkmod recovery 3.x before. I was just curious as to the reason?

40ftcobb · 05-12-2011, 07:59 PM

I'm curious too,why?

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Beer Goggles · 05-12-2011, 10:33 PM

I believe that it's related to using an ext partition. I've been using 3.0.0.5 for quite a while with no problems. Including doing a complete system restore from a backup.

**danger-rat** · 05-12-2011, 10:46 PM

I personally use Clockwork 2.x, and prefer it over Amon Ra. When 3.x was released, I used it for a short while, but ended up with a corrupted ext partition. I tried a second time, and it wasn't long before I had similar results - I suspect it has something to do with the fact that I use an ext partition, and maybe even compatibility with Darktremors...

Anyway, there's a whole host of people who had similar issues. I don't know if it's the recovery or user error, but until I know how to tell someone how to use it without risk, I'll be recommending avoiding it, or at least doing a bit more research...

Props to Koush though, because he puts out excellent work, and like I said, I prefer Clockwork 2.x as my recovery of choice...

40ftcobb · 05-12-2011, 11:15 PM

Ok so I have a couple questions now.
First what do you mean by ext partition?

And second do I need one?

Yep still lots to learn lol

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**danger-rat** · 05-12-2011, 11:27 PM

There's a number of different file systems that are used on drives and partitions. The standard for USB storage devices is FAT, so that is what is used for your SD card, because it doubles as a USB storage device (Windows typically uses FAT and NTFS file systems). Android and Linux typically use YAFFS and EXT file systems...

The Nexus One is known for having issues with memory space for apps. The Android way of moving apps to the SD is only partially effective because it treats the SD as external storage (because of it's FAT file system). A better option is to create an EXT partition on the SD, and trick Android into thinking it's part of the internal storage...

40ftcobb · 05-12-2011, 11:32 PM

Well that's frigging handy,can you chose the size of the partition?

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05-11-2011, 12:06 AM	#1
ukdal1 Junior Member Member #16260 Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 29 Phone: Not Listed Carrier: Not Listed	Some questions...new (to me) phone that's rooted So I just bought this phone and the previous owner rooted the phone and it has cyanogen mod 7 (still not sure what that means to me ) on it. I'm completely new to this phone and I just want to make sure I don't mess anything up. I like it the way it is and all the abilities the mod lets you have and I'm satisfied with the way it all works. If I just leave everything as is will anything mess up during normal use? I just don't want to download something and fry the phone, ya know? Thanks all, David

05-11-2011, 11:42 AM	#2
bourne Senior Member Member #14359 Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 289 Phone: Google Nexus One Carrier: The Devil - Rogers	congrates on purchasing a nexus one I have never run CyanogenMod myself and I have only just recently become a rooted user. I think like most devices, if you use little discretion and a little common sense while using your phone I don't think you can really cause all that much damage to it (of course there are always the exceptions to the rule). Spend sometime around these forums, and of course spend some time just playing with your phone, and you will get more comfortable with it as time goes on. Just enjoy it though is my best advice __________________ ................... .:. phoneStats .:. .:. Nexus One .:. version 2.3.4 .:. build number GRJ22 .:. ROOT - Stock Gingerbread img ................... .:. Update from Gingerbread 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 and maintain root

05-11-2011, 12:01 PM	#3
danger-rat Super Moderator Member #12109 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,961 Phone: Nexus One-point-three Carrier: Not Listed	Since you're rooted, I would recommend taking advantage of the ability to make backups to your SD. You can backup apps and settings with Titanium Backup. You can backup the full system with a custom recovery (you probably already have one). Your options are either Amon Ra or Clockworkmod (though I would avoid the 3.x version of Clockwork). You can boot into recovery from your shut down menu, just long press the power button... ROM Manager is an app interface, which will make the backup process a little easier, but requires you to use the Clockwork recovery. Avoid the 3.x version of the recovery, and flash a 2.x version from the last menu option... __________________ "There is no charge for awesomeness"

05-12-2011, 07:46 PM	#4
bourne Senior Member Member #14359 Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 289 Phone: Google Nexus One Carrier: The Devil - Rogers	I've seen you recommend staying away from clockworkmod recovery 3.x before. I was just curious as to the reason? __________________ ................... .:. phoneStats .:. .:. Nexus One .:. version 2.3.4 .:. build number GRJ22 .:. ROOT - Stock Gingerbread img ................... .:. Update from Gingerbread 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 and maintain root

05-12-2011, 10:46 PM	#7
danger-rat Super Moderator Member #12109 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,961 Phone: Nexus One-point-three Carrier: Not Listed	I personally use Clockwork 2.x, and prefer it over Amon Ra. When 3.x was released, I used it for a short while, but ended up with a corrupted ext partition. I tried a second time, and it wasn't long before I had similar results - I suspect it has something to do with the fact that I use an ext partition, and maybe even compatibility with Darktremors... Anyway, there's a whole host of people who had similar issues. I don't know if it's the recovery or user error, but until I know how to tell someone how to use it without risk, I'll be recommending avoiding it, or at least doing a bit more research... Props to Koush though, because he puts out excellent work, and like I said, I prefer Clockwork 2.x as my recovery of choice... __________________ "There is no charge for awesomeness"

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05-12-2011, 07:59 PM	#5
40ftcobb Senior Member Member #15367 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Edmonton,Alberta Posts: 343 Phone: nexus one Carrier: moblicity	I'm curious too,why? Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk

05-12-2011, 10:33 PM	#6
Beer Goggles Senior Member Member #7010 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NE Illinois Posts: 994 Phone: Atrix, GB 2.3.6 rooted Carrier: AT&T	I believe that it's related to using an ext partition. I've been using 3.0.0.5 for quite a while with no problems. Including doing a complete system restore from a backup.

05-12-2011, 11:15 PM	#8
40ftcobb Senior Member Member #15367 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Edmonton,Alberta Posts: 343 Phone: nexus one Carrier: moblicity	Ok so I have a couple questions now. First what do you mean by ext partition? And second do I need one? Yep still lots to learn lol Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk

05-12-2011, 11:27 PM	#9
danger-rat Super Moderator Member #12109 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,961 Phone: Nexus One-point-three Carrier: Not Listed	There's a number of different file systems that are used on drives and partitions. The standard for USB storage devices is FAT, so that is what is used for your SD card, because it doubles as a USB storage device (Windows typically uses FAT and NTFS file systems). Android and Linux typically use YAFFS and EXT file systems... The Nexus One is known for having issues with memory space for apps. The Android way of moving apps to the SD is only partially effective because it treats the SD as external storage (because of it's FAT file system). A better option is to create an EXT partition on the SD, and trick Android into thinking it's part of the internal storage... __________________ "There is no charge for awesomeness"

05-12-2011, 11:32 PM	#10
40ftcobb Senior Member Member #15367 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Edmonton,Alberta Posts: 343 Phone: nexus one Carrier: moblicity	Well that's frigging handy,can you chose the size of the partition? Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk

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